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I'm a regular reader of Escher Girls, so when I read the latest post this morning, I was deeply concerned. The following post was submitted to Eschergirls and was not made by me. The artist is Selkiesiun

I DID NOT DRAW THIS PICTURE. :iconparanormasiun: DID. THIS IS A QUOTE OF HER EXPERIENCES.
I AM ONLY RELAYING THE INFORMATION.


Selkiesiun submitted to Eschergirls:

    "This is not so much a critique post as it is a conformation of how absurd the standards of art in the comic book industry have become.

    I traveled to San Diego Comic Con this year and participated in the portfolio reviews they where holding from Thursday to Sunday. Although I will admit I am not the best artist in the world, I really wanted to try and show them that comic book art could be done in a realistic manor while still keeping the superhuman aesthetics of the art form.

    This Batwoman piece was the work that I gained the most flack for from all the companies because the anatomy was as they quoted 'not industry standard.' At one company (which I shall choose to not name) I was given a full critique on the anatomical incorrections as the following."


Art (C) Selkiesiun

    "Her breasts are much too small and do not have the lift that superhero women should have. Her jawline is fat and her neck much too long. The style of her hair is clunky and does not flow in a sense that a super human would. Her hips, waist and thighs are too big and she honestly looks fat. No one is going to want to read a comic with a fat female protagonist. I honestly recommend looking at issues of Sport's Illustrated to get the right anatomy. Those women are the peak of human perfection, and that is what we want in this industry."



Emphasis is mine.

No one wants to read about a fat female superhero protagonist? Really? Women especially are screaming for representation in comics these days. Again and again we are subjected to one image of female beauty, one mono-personality of the fighting sex kitten who happens to be ultra-strong despite having slender limbs and wearing high heels and metal bikinis while fighting. The point of this contest is NOT to create a fetishized or "mocking" fat protagonist whose superpower is burgers. This is about the very real need to increase diversity and representation in media and how it presents female characters. Yes, superheroes are a fantasy, but do they have to always have unrealistic bodies? Especially for the athletics and strength required of them for such fighting activities.

Your challenge is simple: Create a fat female superheroine.

- YOU get to define what "fat" and "normal" mean.
You get to decide what "healthy" means. What is the "peak of physical perfection"?
What is "too big"? What is "Too small"?
Should we even define ourselves by those phrases?
- The goal is to defy the body stereotypes currently present in the media today.
- All art must be newly created for this contest.
- You can draw, write or both. Any style is welcome.
- Written submissions can be short stories, comics, or written additions to art (extended character bios, stories + art, etc) No word limit.
- As long as it fits within the theme, you may enter photography, sculpture or cosplay.
- There is no entry limit. You can enter multiple art and writing submissions, but you cannot win both prizes.
- I will also accept fan-art of existing female superheroines drawn with more realistic proportions.
- You can use existing characters of your own, but the art must be new.
- I will also accept "olympian" bodies that are proportionally muscular and suited to athleticism. Form follows function!
- The submission deadline for this contest is September 17th, two months from now
- There will be two categories of winner, one viewer's choice (vote) and one judges panel. Judges will include myself and a few impartial friends.
- You are welcome to fave this journal or share it around to increase its exposure, but it's not required.
- Spread the word on Tumblr?

Are anthros allowed?
The character must be "recognisably" human. Anthro traits are allowed, but this contest focuses on realistic proportions of human bodies, so just keep that in mind. Things like lizard skin, wings, cat ears, tails are all welcome. But a human head with a lion's body would escape the purpose of the contest.

What about petite characters, with no bust and no hips?
If that is how you wish to escape to cookiecutter, by all means. Just remember that slim women are more represented in comics, anime and cartoons than larger ones. The goal here is to represent the underrepresented. Do what you feel is right.

HOW TO SUBMIT:
Submit your deviation as you regularly would, and send me the link via note or comment. I will add it to the folder and let you know when I have.

VIEW CURRENT ENTRIES HERE

Important Information

Check out this article on fitness and bodies for inspiration and information

More body diversity reference for artists

You can support REAL LIFE superwoman Sarah Robles!
She is the strongest person in America (Yes, she outlifts women AND men) and she can lift more than 568 pounds!
Sarah is 5'10.5 inches and weighs 275 pounds. And she is a healthy Olympic hopeful.

The Big Sexy Problem With Superheroines
This article basically sums up all of my thoughts and feelings about hyper-sexualized superheroines. It is worth reading.

This post demonstrates the enforced lack of diversity in female bodies.
There are skinny, muscular and fat men. But the women? They're cookie-cutters.

This article highlights the difference between male and female comic characters by dressing and posing the men as women.
Why do the men look ridiculous in female costumes and poses, but women do not look ridiculous in male costumes and poses?
This is sexual objectification of women at work.

The True Price of The "Perfect Physique"
For those that argue that drawing a fat person would encourage unhealthy habits, read this article. Those we view as beautiful and healthy are not always so. In the same way that you can be fat and still be healthy, you can be thin and unhealthy.

This site has photo submissions of bodies of all heights, weights and shapes.
Just enter in the parameters and you will find a body.

Prizes
Additional prize donations are welcome. Prize donators are not prohibited from entering.

Viewer's Choice:
- 1 custom stock set of ten images from me
- An art feature on my profile
- Llama
- An illustration by Sakura-lies
- An illustration by MystykNess
- 15 points and a llama from LadyKylin
- A drawing by Samirakate
- 75 points and an illustration by landiddy
- 1000-word flash-fiction piece from Zingaresa
- A keychain of the superhero symbol of choice by jeweledleah
- An illustration by goddessredd
- An Exclusive Stock Pack by PirateLotus-Stock
- 50 points and a feature by Ina-Fahlsten
- An Exclusive Stock Pack by DamselStock
- 2 Exclusive Stock Packs and a Feature by Tasastock
- A 3-month Premium Membership and an Exclusive Stock Pack by syccas-stock
- 200 points from NeipyPien
- A hand-made Pocket Notebook from danaan-dewyk
- A winner's package from AnotherContestGroup
- 15 points and an icon from justifi-cation
- A drawing by NymphalisIo
- A head portrait and feature by bubblemoon66
- A character illustration by myuinhiding
- A coloured bust illustration and llama by DoTheLimbo
- A drawing and two llamas by BevyArt
- A monochrome bust illustration by Gnewi
- 100 points and a feature from Molybdenumblues
- An illustration and a feature from Self-Epidemic
- A drawing by GuardiansofCalcaria
- A six month subscription by Dreamorchid78
- 25 points and a drawing by Coty-chan
- A drawing of your superhero design by muura
- An illustration and llama by bwahhahahaaa


Judges Panel:
- 1 custom stock set of ten images from me
- An art feature on my profile
- Llama
- An illustration by Sakura-lies
- An illustration by MystykNess
- 15 points and a llama from LadyKylin
- A drawing by Samirakate
- 75 points and an illustration by landiddy
- 50 points from Hikkarin
- Coloured Bust Shot Illustration from Shattered-Earth
- 1000-word flash-fiction piece from Zingaresa
- Coloured Bust Shot Illustration and llama from DoTheLimbo
- An illustration by goddessredd
- An Exclusive Stock Pack by PirateLotus-Stock
- An illustration by peach-of-crazyness
- 50 points and a feature by Ina-Fahlsten
- An Exclusive Stock Pack by DamselStock
- 2 Exclusive Stock Packs and a Feature by Tasastock
- A 3-month Premium Membership and an Exclusive Stock Pack by syccas-stock
- A hand-made Pocket Notebook from danaan-dewyk
- A winner's package from AnotherContestGroup
- 15 points and an icon from justifi-cation
- A drawing by NymphalisIo
- A head portrait and feature by bubblemoon66
- A character illustration by myuinhiding
- A coloured bust illustration and llama by DoTheLimbo
- A drawing and two llamas by BevyArt
- A monochrome bust illustration by Gnewi
- 100 points and a feature from Molybdenumblues
- An illustration and a feature from Self-Epidemic
- A drawing by GuardiansofCalcaria
- A six month subscription by Dreamorchid78
- 25 points and a drawing by Coty-chan
- A drawing of your superhero design by muura
- An illustration and llama by bwahhahahaaa


Current entries

P.S. Congratulations to :iconunisamas:  for winning the 100 point random draw in my previous journal and :iconnallesara: for the 50 point bonus draw. Thank you for all your voting effort!
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:iconbbwonder:
BBWonder Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I hate this. Mainly because I came late to the party. 
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:iconpsychotic-bambi:
Psychotic-Bambi Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Student General Artist
Hey, since it's pretty much been a year, am I safe to assume that this contest is over & having no winners?
Just wanna know for sure so I can stop periodically checking your journals to see if there's been any kind of update that I've missed P:
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:iconkerevon:
Kerevon Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013
Also, HOW THE FUCK DID SOMEONE THINK THAT PICTURE OF BATWOMAN LOOKS FAT!?! For heaven's sake, it's a picture of a muscular woman with a slim waist and large breasts and the god-damn editor complains that she's fat and has tiny breasts. What unrealistic dreamworld are these people living in? Magazine models aren't portrayed realistically; their bodies are sometimes physically impossible (or at least unhealthy) to recreate in real-life because they are Photoshopped to hell. That is NOT the standard of human perfection.
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:iconkerevon:
Kerevon Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013
I think I came upon this too late to actually submit to the contest. Nonetheless, I now desperately want to create a "fat" heroine. Will do so.
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:iconbra1n1ac:
bra1n1ac Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
This is one of the reasons why I have, by and large, stopped reading mainstream comics, and really, mainstream most things. I don't even watch TV anymore.

I think the only comics I still read are Tintin, Asterix and PS238; the former two having stopped producing new comics (I think. In the case of Asterix it's just that we haven't seen anything in a few years,) and the last of which is a -webcomic.- It's -very- bad in the entertainment industry right now. They always pander to the lowest common denominator; guaranteeing that it will get even lower next year.

Really, the only bright spot is the indie scene, and only if you know where to look, because, what with there being no quality control or marketing department, most indie comics are garbage. There are a few gems, though. You just have to be lucky enough to find them.
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:iconmechangel2002:
mechangel2002 Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Was this journal posting ever submitted as a proper News Article? If not, it really should be. I would love to feature and share it!
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:iconmishihime:
mishihime Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
In reference to your unfortunate experience showing your art...

Clearly undergoing unnecessary surgery and implanting yourself with giant saline sacks is 'healthy'. lol.

Oh well, any one who reads comics should know western comics forcibly push away female audiences.
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:icontsukiko-koe:
Tsukiko-koe Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I felt you might appreciate this video. [link]
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:iconartisinmyheart:
ArtisinmyHeart Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
who won?
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:iconrobynrose:
RobynRose Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2012
we're voting right now.
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:iconblazeorama:
Blazeorama Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2012
When will results be posted?
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:iconrobynrose:
RobynRose Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2012
my current journal on my main page has all the finalists so far.
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:iconchristineisdead:
ChristineIsDEAD Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2012
But not all of them right? I'm still waiting to vote for the entry I like in your contest folder.
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:iconrobynrose:
RobynRose Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2012
You can vote in every poll. All finalists will get another round of voting. So if you don't see the entry you really like, you can still vote in the polls for the other finalists.
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:iconchristineisdead:
ChristineIsDEAD Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2012
Oh good, thanks for telling me.
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:iconfrills-of-justice:
Frills-Of-Justice Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Is this context over? TT^TT I really wanted to enter :iconcraiplz:
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:iconrobynrose:
RobynRose Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2012
we're in the voting stage.
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:icongrapegrandpa:
Grapegrandpa Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2012
Wow! So many great entries. I'm glad I'm not on the panel.
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:iconroguepunx:
roguepunx Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
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:iconrobynrose:
RobynRose Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2012
Awesome. :)
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:iconsachi-pon:
Sachi-pon Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
sorry this is almost late OTL sob [link]
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:iconsakura-lies:
Sakura-lies Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012
Almost late, almost late!!
My entries [link] [link] [link]
Enjoy!

I'm so excited for this contest, I can't wait to find out who's going to win. There are so many good entries ^-^
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:iconotterlore:
Otterlore Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Super late entry, but I really wanted to make a villain! [link]
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:iconcomixjammer:
comixjammer Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012  Professional General Artist
My entry--so glad that I was able to get this in on time! Thanks for making this contest and helping to bring awareness to the issue. [link]
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:iconguardiansofcalcaria:
GuardiansofCalcaria Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012  Student General Artist
Here it is, finally,Molly Darhsine a.k.a Viper.
She's our opinion of what actually happens when you try to look like those superhero comics want you to look like.
[link]
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:iconguardiansofcalcaria:
GuardiansofCalcaria Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012  Student General Artist
I mean Darkshine... Molly Darkshine
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:iconphantomet:
Phantomet Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I want I want!! It's not too late is it!?
Well, here it is, please accept it:
[link]
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:iconharetrinity:
HareTrinity Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Sorry it's not something better, but I still want to enter so here you go: [link] !
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:icondaniel-skeletontree:
Daniel-SkeletonTree Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012
Big bertha. marvel comics. fat girls ARE in comics. they just aren't popular, because they're fat.
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:iconelizawyatt:
ElizaWyatt Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2012  Professional Writer
A tiny supermodel who's superpower is to become enormously fat? [link]

... I'm not sure Bertha counts.
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:iconiamhamburgah1:
IamHamburgah1 Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Here is my entry :D [link]

lucky its open till midnight, SO GLAD I ENTERED :iconyeahplz:
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:iconmospineq:
Mospineq Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
My entry: [link] :)
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:iconpsychotic-bambi:
Psychotic-Bambi Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2012  Student General Artist
Here's my entry: [link]

I hope I'm not too late, I thought we had until midnight on the 17th, but other comments have got me worrying ; -;
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:iconindicates:
indicates Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2012  Hobbyist
[link] I DID IT I'M ON TIME :happybounce:
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:iconotterlore:
Otterlore Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ugh, I had a great idea for a character, but school got in the way. I don't suppose we can submit on the 17th, but whatever, I'll just make her outside of this contest. I can't wait to see who wins!
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:iconrobynrose:
RobynRose Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2012
the 17th is the last day, and I'll be accepting entries until midnight :>
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:iconotterlore:
Otterlore Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, cool! At least I can work on her some more and draw her when I get home today~
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:iconsachi-pon:
Sachi-pon Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
i'm still working on my entry and will have it finished within the next day. sorry it's last-minute ^___^UU
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:iconsilvanne:
Silvanne Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Here's my entry [link] :)
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:iconysabetwordsmith:
Ysabetwordsmith Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2012  Professional Writer
This contest is a great idea. I've posted my story "The Hand of Sedna" here:
[link]

Let me know if you can't read it; the journal box killed the formatting and I have no idea if the link will work properly. I'll be happy to email you the story if you wish.
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:iconsoftisthenight:
softisthenight Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2012
Hey!
I had so much fun coming up with character designs for this contest!
I actually created a trio of unusual superheroines, but I only had the time to properly finish this one:
[link]
This contest really inspired me, I do think I'll make a comic story based on the three characters I came up with!
Thanks a bunch <3
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:iconelizawyatt:
ElizaWyatt Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2012  Professional Writer
My entry! ... Finally. [link]

I'd meant to draw mini-comics underneath it; we'll see if I can manage to add them in time.
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:iconysabetwordsmith:
Ysabetwordsmith Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2012  Professional Writer
Oh, I didn't see the mini-sketches underneath last night when I was commenting on stuff. Those are cool.
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:iconelizawyatt:
ElizaWyatt Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2012  Professional Writer
Oh, they weren't there last night. I've been adding what I can; I'm more of a writer than an artist, so Mineana has a decent sized story behind her, and I wanted to add bits in here and there.
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:iconsassy-pigeon:
sassy-pigeon Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hello again! I would like to contribute to this awesome contest as well! Here's my entry! [link] I'm really enjoying watching the gallery of entries build up! -^ __^- great to see such support for unconventional heroes! <3
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:iconrosey-panda:
rosey-panda Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2012
I hope I haven't missed the deadline...


[link]
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:iconartistbrandi:
ArtistBrandi Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Late to the party...but I just wanted to say that I stand with you!
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:iconfish-cow:
Fish-Cow Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This contest is awesome! Thank you, it inspired me to start drawing again.

I don't know if I did the concept justice but here is my entry: [link]
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:iconaarows:
Aarows Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2012  Student General Artist
If a person puts full effort into anything then it is worth taking pride in. Healthy is healthy, unhealthy is unhealthy, regardless of appearance. Some people develop bodies that are difficult to achive and maintain in good health but if the effort is still there then the pride should be too.
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:icontsukiko-koe:
Tsukiko-koe Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
My notes sending option is glitchy and doesn't always send my messages (while claiming it did) so I am also going to comment here with the link to my entry for the contest if that is alright.
[link]
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